Comments on: Preventing Disaster With Google Docs http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/ freelance writing by a freelance writer that works in the freelance writing field Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:39:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: It's Time To Strip Naked | The Writers Manifesto Blog http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-5152 It's Time To Strip Naked | The Writers Manifesto Blog Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:01:08 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-5152 [...] you can also upload documents, PDF files, spreadsheets and slide shows to Google Docs or Zoho. These are great applications to store your old work and I believe they are reasonably [...] [...] you can also upload documents, PDF files, spreadsheets and slide shows to Google Docs or Zoho. These are great applications to store your old work and I believe they are reasonably [...]

]]> By: Monika http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2871 Monika Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:24:32 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2871 @ Hope: welcome to my online home. It is great to have you stop by and say hello. :-) Yes, Google Docs are cool to share. So easy and uncomplicated. Interesting to see that you feel safer by keeping your docs locally. But that's fine. I simply found it easier to offload all my past work to free up my hard drive and keep the computer running efficiently. @ Hope: welcome to my online home. It is great to have you stop by and say hello. :-)

Yes, Google Docs are cool to share. So easy and uncomplicated. Interesting to see that you feel safer by keeping your docs locally. But that’s fine.

I simply found it easier to offload all my past work to free up my hard drive and keep the computer running efficiently.

]]> By: Hope Wilbanks http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2869 Hope Wilbanks Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:50:42 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2869 I've played around with Google docs a little bit, but I'm not brave enough to move everything there. I'm sort of a private person and the idea of Google holding all my important documents...well, it just doesn't sit well with me. I'll just keep my stuff on my own computer for now. ;) I do think it's great for collaborators. It sure makes the work load simpler to be able to share a document, rather than emailing it back and forth several times to each other. I’ve played around with Google docs a little bit, but I’m not brave enough to move everything there. I’m sort of a private person and the idea of Google holding all my important documents…well, it just doesn’t sit well with me. I’ll just keep my stuff on my own computer for now. ;)

I do think it’s great for collaborators. It sure makes the work load simpler to be able to share a document, rather than emailing it back and forth several times to each other.

]]> By: Monika http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2863 Monika Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:34:17 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2863 @ Dan: yes, I agree, that is a worry to some extent. If I was to upload images I would however be a lot more worried than with docs. The reason being is that when I write for clients, this work is normally published and once online the spiders crawl their sites and that's it. If Google were to copy this and post somewhere else they'd only shoot themselves in the knee for duplicate content. So they would have to mix things up and make new reports, articles, press releases, etc. just for the sake of keeping the content unique to them. I think it is fair to say that this would be highly unrealistic since they have better things to do than"steal" other people's stuff (like counting their money). ;-) @ Dan: yes, I agree, that is a worry to some extent. If I was to upload images I would however be a lot more worried than with docs.

The reason being is that when I write for clients, this work is normally published and once online the spiders crawl their sites and that’s it.

If Google were to copy this and post somewhere else they’d only shoot themselves in the knee for duplicate content. So they would have to mix things up and make new reports, articles, press releases, etc. just for the sake of keeping the content unique to them.

I think it is fair to say that this would be highly unrealistic since they have better things to do than”steal” other people’s stuff (like counting their money). ;-)

]]> By: DVS http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2854 DVS Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:29:24 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2854 My only problem with using services such as this are terms such as the one quoted below. Most services seem to have clauses like this. Google's is worded such that it seems to be trying to say it only uses it's "royalty-free" license to display your content to you in the course of providing the service. However, a lot of other services lay claim to content you submit through them in order to use it at no cost for their own advertising purposes. Online photo sharing services are notorious for slipping these clauses in and gaining dubious right to use photographer's work royalty-free. All this might make me sound bitter. But I don't think Google is going to swipe anyone's best selling novel out from under them. It's just lawyer talk that can potentially backfire on unsuspecting users. <i>Section 11.1 of the Terms of Service governing Google Docs is replaced in its entirety by: "You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Service. By submitting, posting or displaying the Content you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through the Service for the sole purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in accordance with its Privacy Policy."</i> My only problem with using services such as this are terms such as the one quoted below. Most services seem to have clauses like this. Google’s is worded such that it seems to be trying to say it only uses it’s “royalty-free” license to display your content to you in the course of providing the service. However, a lot of other services lay claim to content you submit through them in order to use it at no cost for their own advertising purposes. Online photo sharing services are notorious for slipping these clauses in and gaining dubious right to use photographer’s work royalty-free.

All this might make me sound bitter. But I don’t think Google is going to swipe anyone’s best selling novel out from under them. It’s just lawyer talk that can potentially backfire on unsuspecting users.

Section 11.1 of the Terms of Service governing Google Docs is replaced in its entirety by:

“You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Service. By submitting, posting or displaying the Content you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through the Service for the sole purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in accordance with its Privacy Policy.”

]]> By: Monika http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2342 Monika Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:47:42 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2342 Pennsylvania: got you know. You can actually export documents as a doc file, HTML, PDF, Excel, text from Google Doc. So when I create documents and files I can export them as a zip file and then send as email attachment for example. The person on the other end doesn't need to have access, unless I want to share files for a joint collaboration. So I can still read them in Office files as usual and also Open Office. Hopefully that makes sense now. Pennsylvania: got you know. You can actually export documents as a doc file, HTML, PDF, Excel, text from Google Doc. So when I create documents and files I can export them as a zip file and then send as email attachment for example.

The person on the other end doesn’t need to have access, unless I want to share files for a joint collaboration.

So I can still read them in Office files as usual and also Open Office.

Hopefully that makes sense now.

]]> By: Pennsylvania http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2341 Pennsylvania Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:56:06 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2341 I think you said that if they started charging you would just copy everything to cd or dvd. If your not using google docs, then what good is the saving of information in the google docs format? What I was saying, if I decided to never update my office software, at least I will always be able to read them. Maybe I really don't uderstand what google docs does. If you create a document in google docs and send it to me, how do I read it? Do I need to use google docs to read it? I think you said that if they started charging you would just copy everything to cd or dvd. If your not using google docs, then what good is the saving of information in the google docs format? What I was saying, if I decided to never update my office software, at least I will always be able to read them. Maybe I really don’t uderstand what google docs does. If you create a document in google docs and send it to me, how do I read it? Do I need to use google docs to read it?

]]> By: Monika http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2338 Monika Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:57:12 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2338 Pennsylvania: not sure whether I got your last comment? I didn't mean to replace a hard drive with a DVD, but merely to burn all my files onto it. Naturally I'd make it a data DVD. The reason I'd choose a DVD over a CD is because of the available storage. Pennsylvania: not sure whether I got your last comment? I didn’t mean to replace a hard drive with a DVD, but merely to burn all my files onto it. Naturally I’d make it a data DVD.

The reason I’d choose a DVD over a CD is because of the available storage.

]]> By: Pennsylvania http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2330 Pennsylvania Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:22:22 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2330 I must say you have one of best looking hard drives i've looked at lately! Ha Ha! Zip to DVD and reformat in the new software. WOW! Just something to be aware of. I must say you have one of best looking hard drives i’ve looked at lately! Ha Ha!

Zip to DVD and reformat in the new software. WOW!

Just something to be aware of.

]]> By: Monika http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2328 Monika Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:27:29 +0000 http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/02/07/google-docs/#comment-2328 Pennsylvania: In that case I would simply save all my stuff in a huge zip file and upload to DVDs. :-) At this stage however I'm not worried and would actually gladly pay too if it helps to keep the clutter of my hard drives. Pennsylvania: In that case I would simply save all my stuff in a huge zip file and upload to DVDs. :-) At this stage however I’m not worried and would actually gladly pay too if it helps to keep the clutter of my hard drives.

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