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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/11/26/the-proof-is-in-the-pudding/comment-page-1/#comment-11378</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Monika,

Same happened to me... I went from a nice PR4 to a PR0 on one of my websites, which has been online for over 5 years!! Go figure.. Frankly, I never made money with it. In part my fault, but the past year the low PR has not helped. 

No, I&#039;m not a social bloggers. Bloggers need to eat as well, and pay for an internet connection!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Monika,</p>
<p>Same happened to me&#8230; I went from a nice PR4 to a PR0 on one of my <a href="http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/go/XSitePro" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/go/XSitePro';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">websites</a>, which has been online for over 5 years!! Go figure.. Frankly, I never made money with it. In part my fault, but the past year the low PR has not helped. </p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not a social bloggers. Bloggers need to eat as well, and pay for an internet connection!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Friar</title>
		<link>http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/11/26/the-proof-is-in-the-pudding/comment-page-1/#comment-11356</link>
		<dc:creator>Friar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m late for the party.   Oh well. :-D

Regarding commenting.   It also has a lot to do whether you write about the &quot;Flavor-of-the-Month&quot; topic. 

I&#039;ve seen some posts that say almost nothing of any substance, but they&#039;ll get 50-60 comments because a &quot;Cool Kid&quot; said it. 

While other people might write excellent heart-felt original posts and they might not even get a dozen.  Annoys the hell out of me.   Such is Life in the Blogosphere. 


I&#039;m a social blogger.   I do it for fun....I&#039;m under no expectations that I&#039;ll make any money off this.  I really don&#039;t think blogging will match my existing salary (or if it does, I&#039;d certainly have to work more than 37.5 hours a week I currently put in....)


I do have a few ideas I&#039;m working on.  I think they&#039;ll make some money.  Mabye.   But not serious money.   

Maybe a bit extra to top up my vacation fund, or pay for some car repairs.  But I&#039;m going to be doing my artwork and writing anyway, regardless if I get paid.   So like I said...any money I make is purely bonus. 

I have to laugh about Google PR numbers.  (I didnt&#039; even know what that meant a few months ago).   

I was told I have a PR Number of 4.  I guess that&#039;s supposed to be a good.   Though I did ASOLUTELY NOTHING to try to achieve that.  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m late for the party.   Oh well. <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding commenting.   It also has a lot to do whether you write about the &#8220;Flavor-of-the-Month&#8221; topic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some posts that say almost nothing of any substance, but they&#8217;ll get 50-60 comments because a &#8220;Cool Kid&#8221; said it. </p>
<p>While other people might write excellent heart-felt original posts and they might not even get a dozen.  Annoys the hell out of me.   Such is Life in the Blogosphere. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a social blogger.   I do it for fun&#8230;.I&#8217;m under no expectations that I&#8217;ll make any money off this.  I really don&#8217;t think blogging will match my existing salary (or if it does, I&#8217;d certainly have to work more than 37.5 hours a week I currently put in&#8230;.)</p>
<p>I do have a few ideas I&#8217;m working on.  I think they&#8217;ll make some money.  Mabye.   But not serious money.   </p>
<p>Maybe a bit extra to top up my vacation fund, or pay for some car repairs.  But I&#8217;m going to be doing my artwork and <a href="http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/go/writers_wanted" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/go/writers_wanted';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">writing</a> anyway, regardless if I get paid.   So like I said&#8230;any money I make is purely bonus. </p>
<p>I have to laugh about Google PR numbers.  (I didnt&#8217; even know what that meant a few months ago).   </p>
<p>I was told I have a PR Number of 4.  I guess that&#8217;s supposed to be a good.   Though I did ASOLUTELY NOTHING to try to achieve that.  <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo Bueno</title>
		<link>http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/11/26/the-proof-is-in-the-pudding/comment-page-1/#comment-11341</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo Bueno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Comments to Build Traffic
I have to agree that good ol&#039; fashioned commenting is one of the best ways to drive traffic to your blog! I&#039;ve made some great relationships that way (especially having gotten outside of my niche). The problem with me though is that sometimes, I don&#039;t get a chance to visit other blogs often. I read their posts through my feedreader but don&#039;t get a chance to comment (when I can&#039;t think of something to say, I opt to say nothing at all as opposed to saying &quot;great post. Thanks!&quot;). 

Re: Monetizing Your Blog
I don&#039;t think that there&#039;s anything wrong with it. When I first started Ribeezie, it was nothing like what it is today. I didn&#039;t promote any services through the site. I offered web designs off-site and got a few clients via good ol&#039; fashioned word-of-mouth but the site was just a place of reflection and sharing for me. 

Fast forward a few months later though and I&#039;m promoting what I do: consulting and web design. I have a few affiliate products on there but their products that I&#039;ve purchased/used and from people I can account for. 

Here&#039;s the thing though, every time I did something to monetize my site, whether it was adding my services page or adding advertisements, I let my readers know of the change so that they weren&#039;t caught off guard about it. I was being as transparent as possible in doing so and in the end, I think everyone appreciated me for that (or so I hope they did). 

Anyway, hope some of that was helpful... Have a great week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Comments to Build Traffic<br />
I have to agree that good ol&#8217; fashioned commenting is one of the best ways to drive traffic to your blog! I&#8217;ve made some great relationships that way (especially having gotten outside of my niche). The problem with me though is that sometimes, I don&#8217;t get a chance to visit other blogs often. I read their posts through my feedreader but don&#8217;t get a chance to comment (when I can&#8217;t think of something to say, I opt to say nothing at all as opposed to saying &#8220;great post. Thanks!&#8221;). </p>
<p>Re: Monetizing Your Blog<br />
I don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s anything wrong with it. When I first started Ribeezie, it was nothing like what it is today. I didn&#8217;t promote any services through the site. I offered web designs off-site and got a few clients via good ol&#8217; fashioned word-of-mouth but the site was just a place of reflection and sharing for me. </p>
<p>Fast forward a few months later though and I&#8217;m promoting what I do: consulting and web design. I have a few affiliate products on there but their products that I&#8217;ve purchased/used and from people I can account for. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing though, every time I did something to monetize my site, whether it was adding my services page or adding advertisements, I let my readers know of the change so that they weren&#8217;t caught off guard about it. I was being as transparent as possible in doing so and in the end, I think everyone appreciated me for that (or so I hope they did). </p>
<p>Anyway, hope some of that was helpful&#8230; Have a great week!</p>
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		<title>By: Monika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ tdaka: Thank you, I appreciate your words and taking the time to comment. I am sure things will be better again with my PR over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ tdaka: Thank you, I appreciate your words and taking the time to comment. I am sure things will be better again with my PR over time.</p>
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		<title>By: tkada.com</title>
		<link>http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/11/26/the-proof-is-in-the-pudding/comment-page-1/#comment-11201</link>
		<dc:creator>tkada.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for coming to know your PR ranking backward and so going down with adds. Has you a success full blogger, I am sure you can sustain your niche back again.
I am not a social blogger, making money blogger but with social attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for coming to know your PR ranking backward and so going down with adds. Has you a success full blogger, I am sure you can sustain your niche back again.<br />
I am not a social blogger, making money blogger but with social attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Monika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kim: LOL, isn&#039;t it funny, the same occurrence brings us all together, mulling what in the world could have happened. I do have a webmaster account but am not sure whether a reconsideration request will be answered in the first place.

I think you might be right with the 301. Even though Google says to use them (opposed to 302s, it might have dropped me off the map when I swapped things around.)

So I guess I&#039;m getting a little more relaxed about it right now and just wait and see what happens at the next update. I have enough incoming links to think I should go back to a PR3 at least, but maybe it is too late to account for them all as updates have probably already been calculated. If that happens and I&#039;m still a 0 I might to the request after all.

I don&#039;t want to wit another 3 months to attract good paying advertisers.

As for SE traffic, yes I still do get it, but my main keyword &quot;freelance writing&quot; has dropped into nowhere and that bugs me more than anything. However, I&#039;m confident it&#039;ll come back at some stage.

Thanks for peeking in, I&#039;m glad to have discovered your blog (thanks to Cath Lawson), even though it was over unfortunate circumstances for us both. But hey, life goes on right! :)

@ Sire: I understand that you are not giving a rats ... about Google anymore. I however do because it is Google that will ultimately pay my bills for ranking well and getting SE traffic. 

Like you, I blog how I want to as well but I do try to stick to the guidelines they put down. I suppose we choose whatever is best for us, don&#039;t we?

Anyway, I really appreciate you stopped by and shared your own PR experience with us. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kim: LOL, isn&#8217;t it funny, the same occurrence brings us all together, mulling what in the world could have happened. I do have a webmaster account but am not sure whether a reconsideration request will be answered in the first place.</p>
<p>I think you might be right with the 301. Even though Google says to use them (opposed to 302s, it might have dropped me off the map when I swapped things around.)</p>
<p>So I guess I&#8217;m getting a little more relaxed about it right now and just wait and see what happens at the next update. I have enough incoming links to think I should go back to a PR3 at least, but maybe it is too late to account for them all as updates have probably already been calculated. If that happens and I&#8217;m still a 0 I might to the request after all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to wit another 3 months to attract good paying advertisers.</p>
<p>As for SE traffic, yes I still do get it, but my main keyword &#8220;freelance writing&#8221; has dropped into nowhere and that bugs me more than anything. However, I&#8217;m confident it&#8217;ll come back at some stage.</p>
<p>Thanks for peeking in, I&#8217;m glad to have discovered your blog (thanks to Cath Lawson), even though it was over unfortunate circumstances for us both. But hey, life goes on right! <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Sire: I understand that you are not giving a rats &#8230; about Google anymore. I however do because it is Google that will ultimately pay my bills for ranking well and getting SE traffic. </p>
<p>Like you, I blog how I want to as well but I do try to stick to the guidelines they put down. I suppose we choose whatever is best for us, don&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>Anyway, I really appreciate you stopped by and shared your own PR experience with us. <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had two PR4 blogs that got slapped to 0, and I know why, its because I did paid posts. I reckon Google wants to keep all the advertisers for himself the greedy bastard. The thing is that I still do paid posts, I just don&#039;t get as many highly paid ops, though I did get a $20 one today.

So then, whilst keeping those other blogs, I decided to start some new ones, only this time by doing everything right. After getting it to PR3 one was slapped to PR0 and the only thing I could put it to was that Google didn&#039;t like the name of the Blog which was loadofbullshit.co? The thing is why give me the PR in the first place? I know longer bother about Google. I blog the way I want and Google can go get stuffed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had two PR4 blogs that got slapped to 0, and I know why, its because I did paid posts. I reckon Google wants to keep all the advertisers for himself the greedy bastard. The thing is that I still do paid posts, I just don&#8217;t get as many highly paid ops, though I did get a $20 one today.</p>
<p>So then, whilst keeping those other blogs, I decided to start some new ones, only this time by doing everything right. After getting it to PR3 one was slapped to PR0 and the only thing I could put it to was that Google didn&#8217;t like the name of the Blog which was loadofbullshit.co? The thing is why give me the PR in the first place? I know longer bother about Google. I blog the way I want and Google can go get stuffed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Woodbridge &#124; (Anti) Social Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Woodbridge &#124; (Anti) Social Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Monika - Just what I wanted to be famous for - a drop in page rank ;-)  And I have learned way more about this topic than I ever wanted to.

I didn&#039;t leave a comment on Matt Cutt&#039;s blog.  The best thing to do is submit a Reconsideration Request.  I&#039;ve read that if you submit one and don&#039;t hear anything for a couple of weeks to resubmit.  You have to have a Webmaster&#039;s Tools account to do this http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=35843

I haven&#039;t submitted one yet and I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m going to.

I don&#039;t think your new theme is the cause.  The 301 redirect is the more likely culprit.  It will take google some time to reindex.  I&#039;ve read it can take 3 weeks to 3 months.  But it probably won&#039;t show anything until the next page rank update.  I just moved a site to a new domain and it currently has no page rank - but I expected that to happen.

Are you still getting search engine traffic and have decent placement?  I would be more concerned about that than the PR.  I have not lost that.

I&#039;m hoping the google is just shuffling things around and things get sorted soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Monika &#8211; Just what I wanted to be famous for &#8211; a drop in page rank <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   And I have learned way more about this topic than I ever wanted to.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t leave a comment on Matt Cutt&#8217;s blog.  The best thing to do is submit a Reconsideration Request.  I&#8217;ve read that if you submit one and don&#8217;t hear anything for a couple of weeks to resubmit.  You have to have a Webmaster&#8217;s Tools account to do this <a href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#038;answer=35843" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&#038;answer=35843</a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t submitted one yet and I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m going to.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think your new theme is the cause.  The 301 redirect is the more likely culprit.  It will take google some time to reindex.  I&#8217;ve read it can take 3 weeks to 3 months.  But it probably won&#8217;t show anything until the next page rank update.  I just moved a site to a new domain and it currently has no page rank &#8211; but I expected that to happen.</p>
<p>Are you still getting search engine traffic and have decent placement?  I would be more concerned about that than the PR.  I have not lost that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping the google is just shuffling things around and things get sorted soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Monika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kevin: I have started to monetize this blog with several trials. See what will happen. I appreciate your concern about the PR but right now all I can do is wait and see.

@ Cath: Yep, I&#039;m with you. I feel exactly the same way. I didn&#039;t know that Kim had the same issues and just come back from her blog. Interesting to say the least.

Nofollow to ads is a must if you don&#039;t want to fall into the bad books of G. Smart lady you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kevin: I have started to monetize this blog with several trials. See what will happen. I appreciate your concern about the PR but right now all I can do is wait and see.</p>
<p>@ Cath: Yep, I&#8217;m with you. I feel exactly the same way. I didn&#8217;t know that Kim had the same issues and just come back from her blog. Interesting to say the least.</p>
<p>Nofollow to ads is a must if you don&#8217;t want to fall into the bad books of G. Smart lady you. <img src='http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cath Lawson</title>
		<link>http://www.thewritersmanifesto.com/blog/2008/11/26/the-proof-is-in-the-pudding/comment-page-1/#comment-11092</link>
		<dc:creator>Cath Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Monika - I&#039;ve been doing the same thing as you over the last couple of weeks.  Don&#039;t get me wrong - I like reading other blogs.  But I can&#039;t afford to be spending hours each week reading and commenting on flaming blogs.  And like you, I want to make money.

I wonder what the hell is going on with your PR.  This also happened to kimwoodbridge.com and she doesn&#039;t have a clue what she&#039;s done either.  

Maybe it&#039;s worth looking at her source code and comparing it with yours, incase you&#039;re both making some stupid error?  I think she also left a comment on Matt Cutts blog.  It seems so unfair that they would penalize you like that.

I&#039;m also working really hard to get more search traffic, so I can understand how you must be feeling.  I only have PR3 right now - but I&#039;ve deleted all my links to John Chow and I&#039;m going to add &quot;no follow&quot; to my ads and see how that goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Monika &#8211; I&#8217;ve been doing the same thing as you over the last couple of weeks.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I like reading other blogs.  But I can&#8217;t afford to be spending hours each week reading and commenting on flaming blogs.  And like you, I want to make money.</p>
<p>I wonder what the hell is going on with your PR.  This also happened to kimwoodbridge.com and she doesn&#8217;t have a clue what she&#8217;s done either.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s worth looking at her source code and comparing it with yours, incase you&#8217;re both making some stupid error?  I think she also left a comment on Matt Cutts blog.  It seems so unfair that they would penalize you like that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also working really hard to get more search traffic, so I can understand how you must be feeling.  I only have PR3 right now &#8211; but I&#8217;ve deleted all my links to John Chow and I&#8217;m going to add &#8220;no follow&#8221; to my ads and see how that goes.</p>
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